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    Hi Guys, I have read a few forums that seem very closely related. But wanted to perhaps ask the same question again with a few different details in case it changes something.

    Scenario is
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    Person 1 Came to New Zealand married but living apart from her husband on a limited purpose Visa to study.
    Person 2 is a permanent resident for over 8 years of N.Z
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    Person 1 and 2 went to school together and fell very much in love right off the bang.
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    Person 1 Had to return back home due to Limited purpose Visa at the end of the year.
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    Person 1 Divorced Husband
    Person 2 Types on MovetoNZ forum.
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    Person 3 Hopefully answers the next step


    The problem is, we spent the entire year in a relationship. Our families know, and have known for awhile. Our teachers knew, my friends here knew. They can provide evidence.

    I earn enough to be able to be a sponsor now.

    We are terrified that we will make a wrong step, and after everything we will be kept apart by immigration because a. she was married, and b. not believing us genuine. Maybe a needless fear but definately a fear. She waited 3 months to divorce him since she left manly due to the fact she had to have surgery and I needed to finalize a contract that would prove I earn enough to support her.

    From what I read our main step since we did not live 12 months together in one place is

    a. Visitors Visa under Partnership - to get her into the country
    b. Work permit as partner - after we live together a few months and to help extend her visitors visa.
    c. Residency as partner - after we live together 12 months.

    We are getting married. We are having a life together. We just dont know clearly how to make this happen. Does this seem like the correct steps to take? She is terrified of immigration, apparently she had a hard run in with NZ immigration when she was trying to study here. They wouldn't grant her a Student Visa since she was living apart from her husband. Only a limited Visa. Had she a student visa she could have just gone for the graduate visa but alas.

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    Hi,

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    Where is she from, and did you spend any length of time living together whilst she was in NZ? Also, how long has she been out of the country?
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    Hi, living together as in sharing same address on bills? no. We have witnesses that can say we were living together, but no official way to prove it. She has been out of the country for 4 months in total now.

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    Which country she comes from depends on the options. If she's from the UK, for example, then arriving on a visitors visa would allow for plenty of time to become eligible for the partnership work visa. In other cases we've had on here, the visitors visas are too short or hard to obtain. Having people being able to vouch for the relationship is good, although evidence such as photos, post dated letters between each other or other dated evidence is what really bolsters the case.
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    She is from Russia. We have emails, skype conversations, msn conversations.. Photos we took while on trips together. However, as it was just the two of us.. and the local animals were hard to train in such short notice, we were not in the same picture :(. However, we are in some photos together. Just not kissing and cuddling. Doesnt it seem a bit superficial to stop and take pictures at those times?

    Iam a bit concerned that they want more unngenuine proof such as photos and conversations that can be faked, rather than character witnesses testifying to the fact. i hate to say it, but we were to busy being in love to realize we should pop out a camera and take pictures for immigration in the future.

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    Yeah, it must be quite difficult to decide what constitutes genuine evidence. Sadly, things like testimonials can be bought, whereas a letter in an envelope post dated by a post office stamp shows a genuine timescale. It's the combination of all the evidence that's what's important.

    Really speaking, anything can be faked, fudged or bought "under the table". This is why this process is not easy, and Immigration faces many fraudulent applications. No one in a genuine relationship thinks about documenting the relationship, so I guess Immigration look for an "average" level of evidence, as most couples will have some photos together (even if taken by friends), letters or other dated evidence. You'll see if you look around on the forum, there's several people in the same frustrating position as you.

    There isn't really much else I can say to be honest, just get as much together as you can. You do need to be living together at the time of application, so that's something that will need to be figured out.
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    we need to be living together the same time for the Visitors Visa? Or we can use the Visitors Visa with enough evidence to be together initially?

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    No sorry, I was talking about the partners work visa. I don't know how a visitors visa partnership application works, but I would assume it wouldn't involve living together!
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    Unfortunately, though not specifically mentioned on the website, the INZ Operational Manual requires the couple to be living together for Visitor Visa applications as well (see section V3.15.10.a.iii):
    a. Immigration officers must sight evidence of the following:
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    iii. that the applicant and their New Zealand partner are living together in a genuine and stable partnership at the time the application is made (see F2.20 for the type of evidence required);
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    Here are checklists from INZ's Moscow branch, and for partnership-based applications in particular.
    04/11/09 - EOI selected (125 points, no job offer)
    30/11/09 - Decision successful
    09/12/09 - ITA received
    23/12/09 - Application submitted
    03/03/10 - Case officer assigned (requested more documents)
    05/03/10 - Job offer secured (IT)
    12/03/10 - Work permits issued (1 year ISSL, 1 year partnership)
    13/04/10 - INZ Interview (re relationship)
    22/05/10 - Approved in Principle
    04/06/10 - Residence Permits issued

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    My suggestion is you go down to your local INZ site and talk to them. They are not monsters and can be very helpful. If you have a case manager talk to them.

    Think about it as there may be some things you forgot about or didn't think to use. Did you send her flowers for Women's Day, if not shame on you. If you did you have the charge receipt. Got any phone bills with calls to Russia? Go through your charge card statements is there anything listed that will shows an expense for or about her. Did you purchase a Russian-English dictionary. Did you book two rickets on the ferry. You are trying to piece together a puzzle. No single piece is a biggie but together they can paint the picture you need. emails are ok since they can be documented by your ISP. If the emails were sent from a kiosk it is not as good if they were sent from a dedicated connection at your home that can be traced back to your account.

    If you sent her a package did she keep the wrapper that says it was from nz. Tell your girlfriend udacha - she will understand. A bale of hay is just a lot of strands of grass. Start collecting your stands.

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