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    Just curious as to why other people here made the move to NZ? And did it turn out the way you thought?

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    For me it was a lifestyle change to get out of the rat race. Been here 14 years and consider myself lucky to be here. You won't get rich but you will live a rich life here.

    Looks like you are hoping to escape the USS Titanic. I was early on the curve.
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    Cliff, quite literally, that's what's been inside my head for the last several years. I have yet to visit (though I'm hoping to come next summer), and I have that exact impression of NZ: you won't get rich, but you'll be comfortable if you do your bit. Been there 14 years? What kind of work do you do, if you don't mind my asking?

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    For me it was a lifestyle change to get out of the rat race. Been here 14 years and consider myself lucky to be here. You won't get rich but you will live a rich life here.

    Looks like you are hoping to escape the USS Titanic. I was early on the curve.

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    When I first came over I was in IT. I called it quits after 30 years finishing up as a contract IT Project Manager for IBM NZ. Now I am a futures day trader, not very common in nz at all. I trade the us financial markets and various currencies. very hard thing to do.

    There are two New Zealand's. Auckland and the rest of the country. So if you go to Auckland don't think that is what the rest of nz is like. Auckland is the big city or "Big Smoke" as we call it here with 1.3 million people. The next biggest cities are Wellington and Christchurch at around 390k. I live in Nelson with around 59k.

    Tell us more about yourself...
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    Thanks Cliff. As for me, I'm kind of a jack of all trades (no pun intended); I've got a background in PR, writing, graphic & web design. I work mostly from home; mine is a job that can largely be done from anywhere. Is there much of a market for these types of services in NZ?

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    Yes there is work in those areas. Do you have a formal degree? A big deal if you want residency.
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    I have an MA and a BA, but both in different fields. I have a pair of certificates in the tech stuff. My wife is also in mental health, and working towards a Master's in that field.

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    Your degree needs to be in what you are claiming experience for points. When you say "My wife is also in mental health", I'll assume you mean she is working in that field and not a patient. It could be your wife is the primary applicant. Have you done an NZ immigration points assessment and what is your age range?

    I am just sizing you up a bit.
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    I have done the points, and it seems she is better as the primary unless I have a job offer. Either way is fine, and yes, she isn't a patient. :) We're both in our early 30's.

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    There shouldn't be anything standing in your way. Where are you in the USA?

    Here is just some things to think about. NZ is a long way from the USA and just about anywhere else as well. If you or your wife are close to your families it can be a hard thing. You don't go to weddings and funerals. If someone gets sick you can't go either. It is not that you can't but it takes a long time to get there and is expensive. Don't underestimate your feelings on this. I have seen it get to other people over time. Skype is great. I didn't have that years ago and can be very helpful.

    NZ is a lot lot living in a small town. If you have ever done that you will know what I am talking about. Everybody knows everybody and if you screw up or screw somebody, everyone knows. If you are a specialist in an area you will know all your peers in the country and they will know you. Work is something people do between their weekends. Don't think lazy, not even, as people work hard during the work day but go home on time and take the weekends off. This is a place to enjoy life and not chase the almighty dollar.

    When I was working IT in the USA my average week was 100 billable hours. If you wouldn't work the hours they would find someone who would. I was told slow down or you are going to burn out. I couldn't slow down in the USA so I came to NZ. Partially clients fault, but i am a workaholic as well. I like what I did, I was lucky. Coming here I learned there is more to life than work, a lot more. NZ changed me for the better. NZ will change you too. It isn't anything you can put your finger on just the environment slowly impacts you. In the USA it was about new cars, bigger houses, etc. Here it is about family and quality of life. Quality of life does not mean a bigger income. I ramble on, sorry about that. I will get off my soapbox.

    In NZ the police don't carry guns and there is no death penalty here. We are non nuclear country by law. You can have NZ citizenship after 5 years. It used to be 3 years but people were using NZ as a backdoor to oz (Australia). Max speed limit is 100 Kilometer per hour or 62.5 MPH. Petrol is $9.00 NZ a gallon equivalent so smaller cars are popular and we drive on the left. We have the highest cell phone in the world. Whoever calls a cell pays not the holder of the phone. It does snow here if you snowboard or snow ski. Temperature is neither extreme hot nor cold. Since the weather is so nice it is a pretty outdoorsy country. If you have an outdoor sport as as hobby I would bet we have it here in spades - from mountain biking to fishing. We have social medicine so there is no such thing as a preexisting condition. Prescription drugs are cheap but the USA drug companies are applying political pressure to try and stop that. Fat chance. One last thing NZ is probably the best country to raise a family.

    Is you have anything specific feel free to ask.
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    "New Zealand isn't just a physical place it is a state of mind."

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