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    Default Oh woe is me!!!! diabetic medical worries

    Hi

    I got my ITA last week and felt pretty pleased with myself.

    I have just booked my medicals and x-rays for next week and after reading some of the responses on here i am begining to think i am wasting my time.

    The doctor doing the medical examination has already warned me that there will be extra tests because I am obese, and that as a diabetic (diet controlled) I will probably trip up elswhere in the system.

    Have any other type 2 diabetics passed the medical and does anyone know what is the BMI trigger point for refusal?

    All this and I have to submit my application by the end of november as I will be 45 then and my points will drop.

    anyone have any suggestions or inspiring anecdotes?

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    Hi d2a6tn. Welcome to the forum.

    The medical forms state that the BMI level should not be >35 otherwise further blood tests will need to be done to find things like diabetes. Usually these tests are enough if they come back clear. With you already having diabetes, you can read here, the medical conditions deemed to be a problem. It doesn't state what the actual cutoff point is for refusal of application.

    Appendix 10: Medical conditions deemed to impose significant costs and/or demands on New Zealandís health and/or education services

    HIV infection
    Hepatitis B surface antigen positive, with abnormal liver function
    Hepatitis C, RNA positive, with abnormal liver function
    Malignancies of solid organs and haematopoietic tissue, including past history of, or currently under treatment
    Exceptions are:
    a) treated minor skin malignancies (not melanoma)
    b) malignancies where the interval since treatment is such that the probability of cure is > 90%, e.g.: early stage (I & IIA) breast cancer at 5 years; low risk prostate cancer at 5 years; early stage (Dukes A & B1) colorectal cancer at 5 years; childhood leukaemia at 5 years
    Solid organ transplants, excluding corneal grafts more than 6 months old
    Chronic renal failure or progressive renal disorders
    Diseases or disorders such as osteoarthritis with a high probability of arthroplasty in the next four years
    Central Nervous System disease, including motor neurone disease, complex partial seizures, poorly controlled epilepsy, prion disease, Alzheimerís and other dementia, and including paraplegia and quadriplegia
    Cardiac disease including ischaemic heart disease, cardiomyopathy or valve disease requiring surgical and/or other procedural intervention
    Chronic obstructive respiratory disease with limited exercise tolerance and requiring oxygen
    Genetic or congenital disorders: muscular dystrophies, cystic fibrosis, thalassaemia major, sickle cell anaemia if more than one sickle crisis in 4 years, severe haemophilia, and severe primary immunodeficiencies
    Severe autoimmune disease, currently being treated with immuno-suppressants other than prednisone
    In a person up to the age of 21 years, a severe (71-90 decibels) hearing loss or profound bilateral sensori-neural hearing loss
    In a person up to the age of 21 years, a severe vision impairment with visual acuity of 6/36 or beyond after best possible correction, or a loss restricting the field of vision to 15-20 degrees
    In a person up to the age of 21 years, a severe physical disability, where they are unable to stand and walk without support, and cannot independently dress, eat, hold a cup, or maintain their stability when sitting.


    As your diabetes is diet controlled, maybe everything will be OK. There is obviously some reason why they have to test for diabetes but I can't see anything about it on the above list. Let's hope that someone who has gone this route looks in and can post something more specific.
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    Thanks Mother Bear. Thats a nice welcome to the forum.

    There are a couple of things on that list i have not heard of !!

    What exactly is this section an appendix of? I have looked at the health requirement section and i can find nowhere near this level of detail.

    I think my BMI will be about 40 (my 22 year old son who plays international tennis is 35) although mine was about 50 and i have lost a lot of weight it does not appear to be enough.

    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2a6tn View Post
    Thanks Mother Bear. Thats a nice welcome to the forum.

    There are a couple of things on that list i have not heard of !!

    What exactly is this section an appendix of? I have looked at the health requirement section and i can find nowhere near this level of detail.

    I think my BMI will be about 40 (my 22 year old son who plays international tennis is 35) although mine was about 50 and i have lost a lot of weight it does not appear to be enough.

    thanks again

    Hi And welcome to the forum.......... my wife is a type one diabetic and she passed the medical from NZIS, if you can get an upto date consultants report it will always make things easier and can help speed it up, you can never give them too much medical info
    EOI Submitted 10/04/2007
    EOI Selected 21/04/2007
    ITA Received 20/07/2007
    ITA Sent Lodged 31/08/2007
    Medicals booked 01/08/2007
    Flights booked 22/10/2007
    Visa granted 17/10/2007
    Arrived in NZ 27/10/2007



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    Thanks Alan

    Did you have to get a consultant that NZIS approved or were you able to use one that your wife was familiar with?

    As I am diet controlled i generally only see the GP annually and the nurse every six months do you think I should ask one of them for a synopsis of my condition?

    cheers

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