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Old 24-03-2006, 04:07 AM
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A co-worker is becoming interested in possibly migrating to NZ and he had an unusual question which I hope someone here can answer. What are the penalties for crime & punishment in NZ?

For example, someone convicted of murder gets ____ years in prison
someone convicted of sexual assault gets ____ years in prison
somoene convicetd of stealing your care get ____ years in prison
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Old 25-03-2006, 02:19 PM
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So he was "just curious", eh? We've got our eye on him.
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Old 25-03-2006, 02:23 PM
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hehe.

Meant to reply to this earlier sorry. I would predict that it would be remarkably similar to the UK to be honest. The trial procedure may differ slightly but the sentences would be based on our own system with the commonwealth and monarch and all that. They seem to have adopted mostly British Practice in almost every area of life there apart for the stupidity of the British of course, which is why most of us are going probably :icon_lol: .
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Old 26-03-2006, 09:27 AM
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Well...my friend is actually fairly strict guy. He feels the reason we have two murders daily, kidnapping & sexual assaults and a car stolen every 10 seconds here is because of the week punishment. Needless to say, the last two child molesters in a major publicity trial got slapped on the wrist and "probation." Essentially, they are out free!
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Old 26-03-2006, 09:47 AM
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I can understand people's frustration at the British justice system but isn't more important to ask ourselves the question 'what makes people act so inhumanely in the first place'?

If people commit crimes because they know they can get away with it, why is it that the majoirty of people have never been tempted to become criminals before? Could it possibly be due to parenting or other environmental factors? Also, why is it that non-western countries, or Western countries with severe penal systems, have have loads of crime?

Parents are the main cause IMO.


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Old 26-03-2006, 04:52 PM
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I don't think we can put the whole problem of child behaviour on the shoulders of the parents alone. There's been many a child from a good family who's been led astray by peer pressure and, then again, some children seem to have just been born plain wicked. It?s easy to assume that a very young child wouldn?t have any badness in them, but I?ve seen lovely parents with a very good natured son having another little son who was an absolute misfit. How could they get it right with one son, but so wrong with another?

True, in many cases, there is an element of blame where the parents just can't be bothered or don't make the time to correct them. Some parents, particularly fathers, don't see any harm when little Johnny is beating the cr@p out of another child and it's looked upon as 'taking care of himself'. I've even heard words of encouragement to a child to this effect or enticement to steal something and, of course, the child grows up thinking this is normal behaviour. A child should be told what?s wrongful behaviour and why it?s wrong, so that he/she fully understands the situation and can make future judgements based on this information.

This is a subject that has been discussed previously here at great length, for those that haven?t caught up with it yet.
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Old 26-03-2006, 11:13 PM
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here's one to fight over..

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10374216

freak!!
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Old 26-03-2006, 11:21 PM
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Sounds like a good candidate for a manogram with the crush plates set to maximum force.
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Old 27-03-2006, 11:52 PM
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Was REALLY annoyed to read in a sunday trash paper that convicted sex offender Peter Hoare is to be given a new identity and life in NEW ZEALAND after serving 16 years of his sentence. The British Authorities have arranged it with the NZ Immigration service. BANG OUT OF ORDER!!!!
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Old 28-03-2006, 03:21 AM
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that's not the way the nz herald reported it stevey..

they reckoned he was doing the immigration thing same as us..
(obvioulsy doing some kind of investor thing)
but there was no mention of new identities etc...

it was the news of the world here i think that had the story, so after a huge pinch of salt, it's probably all a load of old bo**&Cks
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