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    Default Worried: qualification/work experience in area of absolute s

    Dear All,
    I'm worried that I won't qualify for points for qualification/work experience in an area of absolute shortage. Any advice greatly appreciated.
    My siutation is this:
    I have a PhD, and have been doing post-doctorate research at uni since may last year. As part of my work I also do some teaching, and so I have claimed points for qualifications in an area of absolute shortage (as Non-health & IT: University Lecturer). When I filled in the form I get the ten points for it, even though when it asks how long I have had work experience in this field I have to put "none of the above".
    Will I be OK with this?

    Thanks,
    Coxy

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    Default Worried: qualification/work experience in area of absolute s

    The answer is within your question!

    You have claimed points for a qualification in an area of absolute skills shortage, not work experience! :icon_biggrin:
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    Thanks Taffy,
    But it seems I may have been jumping the gun a bit.
    I didn't see the note (have a PhD but can't fill in a simpe form!) on the EOI that says:

    "PLEASE NOTE: A qualification(s) in an identified future growth area or cluster only qualifies for bonus points if you are also claiming points for current skilled employment or an offer of skilled employment in an identified future growth area or cluster.

    Only complete Questions F9 to F11 if you are claiming points for current skilled employment or an offer of skilled employment."

    I have no offer of employment, and don't work in NZ :( so can't claim for skilled employment

    So I think that leaves me with 90 points instead of 100....
    :022:

    What I don't get is why it still gives me 100 points if I have selected "none of the above" when asked about skilled employment (thin ray of hope). Maybe it's just a bug in the form (it shouldn't add the points on from questions f9 to f11 if you've selected none of the above in e1)

    Also (sorry) when I fill out the points indicator I get 100 (?) as it doesn't say on that that the qualification points only count if you are claiming for skilled employment.
    Confused...

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    Default Hmmmm, more confused!

    SM16.20a below looks promising. My qualification is listed in column 4 so does that mean I DO get the points?


    SM 16.20 Qualifications in an area of absolute skills shortage
    a. If a principal applicant DOES NOT have skilled employment in New Zealand in an area of absolute skills shortage
    (see SM8.20), their recognised qualification will be assessed as being in an area of absolute skills shortage if it is
    listed as a qualification (or is assessed as comparable to a qualification) in Column 4 of the Long Term Skill Shortage List.
    b. If a principal applicant does have skilled employment in New Zealand in an area of absolute skills shortage (see
    SM 8.20) their recognised qualification will be assessed as being in an area of absolute skills shortage if the
    specialist, technical or managerial expertise required for that employment was obtained through the completion
    of that qualification.
    c. Recognised qualifications in an area of absolute skills shortage only qualify for points if any occupational
    registration requirements relating to those qualifications are met (see SM 19.15 on page 24).


    SM 8.20 Employment in an area of absolute skills shortage
    a. A principal applicant is assessed as having employment in an area of absolute skills shortage if:
    i. they are employed in an occupation included on the Long Term Skill Shortage List); and
    ii. the current employment or offer of employment meets the specifications for that occupation; and
    iii. they are suitably qualified by training and/or experience to undertake the employment or offer of employment
    (including any specific requirements set out on the Long Term Skill Shortage List).
    b. Skilled employment in an area of absolute skills shortage only qualifies for points if a principal applicant
    provides evidence that their employment or offer of employment meets the requirements of (a) above.

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    Default Worried: qualification/work experience in area of absolute s

    If you look on the Long Term Skills Shortages List, and find Uni Lecturer, take a look at the 4th column to see whether your qualification is listed.

    If it's there, then it quite clearly states that you qualify for the points.

    I guessed your age to be between 20-29, and filled in the form for someone with a degree, a PhD and in an area of skills shortage, and it came back with 95 points?
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    I wish I was 20 -29! 32 I'm afraid.
    But I get 10 points for the Mrs' qualifications, which is how we get to 100
    So....do we conclude that I do get the points??
    (I can't take much more of this today. I was really excited about submitting this morning, then gutted when I thought I don't get the points, and now I'm not sure)

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    Default Worried: qualification/work experience in area of absolute s

    [b:ad329e5265][i:ad329e5265][u:ad329e5265]ONLY[/u:ad329e5265][/i:ad329e5265][/b:ad329e5265] if your qualification is on that list! Otherwise you're EOI will not be accepted or will be rejected after selection.
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    It is!
    So I guess I must be OK. Sweet as..
    :)

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    Default Worried: qualification/work experience in area of absolute s

    Hang on though...
    there are two ways of interperting SM16.2a

    1. You DO have work in NZ, but not in an area of absolute shortage

    or

    2. You don't have any work in NZ.

    If it's 2 I'm OK. If it's 1.......:icon_sad:

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    Default The saga continues.....(but ends with good news (I think))

    I thought it might be useful for others to hear this.
    It appears there is a discrepancy between the online form and the paper version.
    On the online form it says:

    "Only complete questions [u:9cfc84b147]F9 to F11[/u:9cfc84b147] if you are claiming points for skilled employment"

    but on the paper form it says:
    "Only complete Questions [u:9cfc84b147]F9 and F10[/u:9cfc84b147] if you are claiming points for current skilled employment or an offer of skilled employment."
    Implying that you should still fill in question F11 if you are ot claiming for skilled employment.

    So.....it looks like you can stilll claim for a qualification in an area of absolute shortage EVEN IF you ARE NOT claiming for skilled employment

    At least, that's my interpretation of it. Both the points indicator and the EOI forms give me 10 points for it.

    So I have submitted my EOI now.
    Excited again!

    Coxy

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