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    Default OMG! Where, exactly, do I start?!

    Right, I need some help and I know you lot are the people to ask!

    I've just got married and my wife and I are now (finally) considering moving to NZ. We had a holiday there this summer and I managed to persuade her that it was a good idea to move.

    I've got a pretty good handle on the various bits we have to do, but am stuggling with one or two things...

    First is getting a job offer. How far in advance can you realistically get one of these so you can include it in the first part of the visa application (EOI) and get the all important points? I mean, will I really be able to get a job and say 'Er, great, but can I start in 6 months or a year?' then submit my Expression of Interest? Can you add on the fact that you have a job offer after starting the application process?

    Second (and last for now), is there really any need to pay for an immigration consulant or immigration lawyers? They can be quite pricey and I just wondered if it is good value?

    I haven't posted in the forum for a very long time and I think I really am finally going to be moving to New Zealand so any help you can offer would be awesome!

    Thanks everyone :o)

    Dan

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    Welcome back Dan.

    Quote Originally Posted by dan-ish View Post

    I've just got married and my wife and I are now (finally) considering moving to NZ. Congratulations!

    How far in advance can you realistically get one of these so you can include it in the first part of the visa application (EOI) and get the all important points? I mean, will I really be able to get a job and say 'Er, great, but can I start in 6 months or a year?' then submit my Expression of Interest?
    It depends on the company and the type of job. Some are prepared to wait quite a long time for the right person whereas others need someone quickly. If you are applying for PR under the Skilled Migrant Category and have a job offer that requires you to take up the position in the near future, you could always apply for a work visa so you can start work while your PR application is proceeding.

    Can you add on the fact that you have a job offer after starting the application process?
    Yes you can. Just let INZ know you have an offer and they should amend your file.

    Second (and last for now), is there really any need to pay for an immigration consulant or immigration lawyers? They can be quite pricey and I just wondered if it is good value?
    No need to pay for immigration advice unless you have a difficult set of circumstances to deal with or you totally lack confidence of going through the process yourself.
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    Default Right, I'm getting there...

    Hey Motherbear,

    Thanks so much for such a mega-quick reply! Much appreciated...

    I think I am erring towards not getting a consultant as it saves so much money and I just can't see any real justification for the fees... So thank you for clearing that up :o)

    Now, forgive me, but I'm still wondering about the timeline for doing all of this EOI/Job getting - there is so much to consider!

    I'd be applying for PR in the Skilled Migrant Category. I'm a primary school teacher and term times and wot not are a consideration... I'd realistically like to be in NZ for the new school year starting February 2012 having left my job in the UK in December 2011. I expect this would mean applying for a job during NZ's 4th term in October, but not really any earlier.

    But wouldn't I need to submit an EOI way before then (October)? And for that to have a good chance of being pulled out of the pool and me getting a Invitation to Apply I would be hugely dependent on a job offer (115 points without, 165 points with).

    I don't see how I can submit an EOI without a job offer (as it won't go any further), but I also can't see how I can get a job offer before I submit an EOI (as it's too far in advance)!

    I'm so sorry for being a bit of a doofus and if that makes no sense, but it's just the timing of when to do various bits that is foxing me!

    Perhaps I do need a consultant after all ;o)

    Thanks again,

    Dan

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    One thing you need to consider up front is that, in NZ, you have to become registered as a teacher with the Teachers' Council. You can find some more useful reading on teaching in NZ on the forum's NZ Website List under Education Related. I hope the links are still current but, if any are defunct, let me know and I'll try to dig up a new link for it. Becoming a teacher in NZ is not as simple as walking into the job.

    No one can really say how long a residency application will take because it varies greatly with people's circumstances, which INZ branch you are applying through and how busy they are, whether all your required documentation is available, whether the medical checks throw up anything unexpected etc. Occasionally people have gone through in 2 months, others have taken a year or more.

    You can still be selected with 115 points although it might take a bit longer than someone with 140+. If you get a job offer in the meantime, you can let INZ know and they may fast track you. Even if you apply for and get a job earlier than you intend, it's quite possible that your employer will be prepared to wait until you are ready to go to NZ. I believe there is a shortage of teachers there, so you could have time on your side. Personally, I don't see any harm in submitting your application in the near future because it will take as long as it takes and you have the flexibility of having the option of an extra12 months after PR is granted before you need to travel to NZ to activate it fi you haven't already got a job offer. I think there would be room to manoeuvre and you have no idea how long it will take you to get a job, so I don't think you can aim for a smooth, time-ordered process. You are allowed a certain amount of time to get things together and organise yourself, so don't worry.

    Employing a consultant won't make the process go any faster or give you an added benefit. You will still have to collate all the necessary documents and information that are needed yourself. There is only so much a consultant can do. They are very useful if your circumstances are complicated and some specialist in-depth knowledge is required, but I don't think this is so in your case.
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    Default Cool :o)

    Hey Motherbear,

    Thank you so much for all of your advice! You will be pleased to hear, I now understand and will be working towards submitting and EOI in the near future :o)

    And I definately won't be using an emigration consultant...

    Dan

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