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    Did any of you watch the tv programme about the N.Z gangs the other night?
    I didnt think they looked scary at all,the wee leader of the biker gangs,put me in mind of Harry Enfields Tim ,nice but dim character
    Oh maybe i shouldnt say that, oops
    Too late
    But then all ive read since in the news is gang attacks at parties,Invercargill houses getting torched.
    It makes you wonder if these programmes only make them worse,cos i must admit ive not seen any gangs here so far
    I have seem some dodgy looking characters though
    And still wouldnt allow my teenager out prowling the streets at night.
    Nicole and her boyfriend were in town yesterday(sunday),by 6 oclock i still hadnt heard from them. I still got the fear as i did in Glasgow
    It turns out they got of the bus to look at the lights and take photos of the Brighton Pier,which is beautiful at night
    But i still got the same fear as i used too.
    I suppose i hoped in a way that when we came over there would be virtually no crime at all,and i would have no worries again, Looking for a bit much really
    I do know though,that its not on the scale of what we came from,but it is getting quite worrying this gang thing
    I do hope they get this sorted out and get some hefty senticing on the go,as its such a beautiful place,pity these morons cant see it that way
    But as i say,ive not witnessed it first hand,only going with the tv and news.
    And i suppose im just a born worrier anyway,especiallly with my kids,who isnt?
    So im not trying to scare folks about NZ,i still love the place and have no intentions of leaving
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    Hi Meadow

    I have been reading alot about this on the news websites... Kinda scary eh?

    I read this one and was a bit worried >>
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    Although, I am sure it happens in glasgow all the time, but i think that they just dont put it in the news cos there is probably too many incidents to report.

    I suppose all the stuff you hear about happens everywhere. So i guess you have to take the good with the bad. Like you say tho.. wouldnt it be nice not to have that maternal worry about the kids. I guess its a natural reaction and if you didnt have it then you would probably worry about that too haha

    I was watching the motorway patrol programme about NZ.. the police are so laid back there i couldnt believe it.

    All i need to know is that its better than Glasgow haha (although that wouldnt be hard!)

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    Hi
    I think speed bumps wouldnt go amiss here.
    I havent noticed much about it really,as we are never out at night.
    Every time i get the slightest wee doubt about coming here,i speak to my parents on phone,and they arent long in making me feel totally reassured we have done the right thing.
    When i hear about goings on in Glasgow,im releived in here. Just wish my 19yrold was here too.
    My mum said she was on the bus coming home from town at 6pm on a sat night. The bus stops,and this crowd are round this guy,who has his shirt off,and he is kicking in to this poor soul lying on the ground,and beating him with what looked like a baseball bat.
    Blood everywhere,screaming girls everywhere,and not a policeman in sight.
    So i think its definetly much better here,and no regrets at all.
    The driving is a nightmare though.
    We were travelling in summer,and on this stretch road Colin didnt know,he was going just about 10 under the limit.It was all hills and scary
    He got pulled over by a traffic police.
    Even when Colin spoke and obviously police man wouldve realised he was a tourist,he still said "you have to keep up or pull over and let them by".There wasnt anywhere to pull over ,lol
    It was the only drive that i felt comfortable with too,as no mad overtaking due to police man behind us all,and then Colin gets pulled.
    That police guy was a bit snide,but any others we have had to speak too through other reasons,have been lovely.
    Ach suppose theres always one,isnt there
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    Gangs out of control
    By EMILY WATT - The Dominion Post | Monday, 23 June 2008

    Police say it is sheer luck they are not dealing with a multiple homicide after Mongrel Mob members rampaged through a 21st birthday party, swinging knives, baseball bats and a machete.

    Five people were admitted to Hawke's Bay Hospital with serious injuries after 100 partygoers were set upon just before midnight on Saturday.

    The Hawke's Bay gang violence comes as Southland police work to quell a feud between rival Mongrel Mob and Road Knights gangs in Invercargill. The Southland tension has led to two properties being torched.

    Meanwhile, the attack at the birthday party is the fifth gang-related attack in Hastings in three weeks, and Mayor Lawrence Yule says the violence against innocent people is of great concern.

    Three men were arrested at the scene of the latest incident and a fourth, who police believe was the principal offender, was arrested yesterday afternoon at a Hastings address. The men are charged with five counts of wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm.

    Detective Sergeant Mike Foster said it appeared a "reasonably senior" gang member was known to the people throwing the party, but he was not invited. When he was refused entry, he returned with a car-load of armed gang members.

    The sight of these patched men slashing their way through the crowd must have been "absolutely horrific", Mr Foster said. "They basically stabbed and slashed and beat anybody who stepped in their way."

    He praised the first police on the scene, who had to deal with "pandemonium" and managed to stabilise the bleeding victims and still arrest three fleeing gang members.

    He did not know what had caused the latest spate of gang violence in Hastings. The attacks did not appear to be directly linked.

    "We need to sit on this very quickly, and I believe we have done that. We're putting them away, we're seeking the cooperation of the [Mob] hierarchy. That's really all we can do."

    Mr Yule said gangs had been present in Hawke's Bay for many years, but violence had worsened dramatically in the past few months. While Wanganui suffered inter-gang violence, "what they are doing here is causing mayhem on innocent people".

    "It's completely unacceptable. We're going to have to get tough and deal with it."

    Canterbury University gang researcher Jarrod Gilbert said it was "enormously rare" for the public to get caught in gang violence. Gangs were usually well-controlled, but Mob leaders seemed to have less control because the gang was so large and violence, known as "Mongrelism", was almost endorsed.

    FIVE ATTACKS IN THREE WEEKS

    Police have arrested nine people, including five Mongrel Mob members, in connection with five attacks in Hawke's Bay in the past three weeks.

    June 21: More than 100 people set upon by six Mongrel Mob members who, armed with knives, baseball bats, and a machete, gatecrashed a Hastings 21st birthday party. Five people taken to hospital. Four arrests so far.

    June 8: A 21-year- old man was beaten after he opened his front door to four men in Flaxmere, Hastings. His terrified partner hid her newborn baby then confronted the men. They were wearing red and black and and yelled out youth gang slang during the beating. A 15-year-old has been arrested in connection with the attack. A 34-year-old man was seriously injured in an assault at Hastings' Mongrel Mob headquarters. Four people have been arrested.

    June 6: A 27-year- old Hastings man was beaten in the suburb of Camberley by several suspected Mongrel Mob members. The man had no gang links and police say the attack appeared to have been unprovoked.

    June 1: Gang members walked into a 21st birthday party and assaulted three people in Camberley.

    From here.

    But PM Helen Clark reckons crime is dropping.
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