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    Default Get yer thinking caps on....

    Heard this on the radio this morning and it's driving me crazy!......

    Your statement is 'Everything I say is a lie'.

    Is that a lie or the truth?

    Here's my take - You are stating that everything you say is a lie, therefore your statement is a lie.... and therefore everything you say is the truth.

    But.... If you are telling the truth, then everything you say IS a lie.

    Which is correct?
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    Yes, I agree with all of that.

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    Well, my take would be:

    If you say 'Everything I say is a lie', then actually what you've just said is a lie. So, that makes that one statement alone a lie, and by that virtue not everything else you say is a lie, so you clearly only lie sometimes, as in the case of your statement.
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    Isn't that what Spock told Norman the android ("I, Mudd" episode of Star Trek) that caused Norman's data cells to fry? Don't think about it too much, or you could face a similar fate.

    Reminds me of one of those brain teasers from my childhood: There is a guard who is either an absolute liar or is absolutely honest. He guards two doors, one of which leads to freedom and the other leads to certain death. You can ask him one question about which door to take. What would a successful question be?
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    Didn't Joseph Heller go over similar ground in Catch-22? And Shakespeare in Hamlet?

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    'Everything I say is a lie.' So, that's a lie. So, you're really telling the truth but then that makes you a liar. Ummmmm.....

    Really like your puzzle Selch, in fact I need to think about that one some more....

    As for Hamlet Koko, I'm not sure....
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    "To be or not to be, that is the question"

    What about Edgar Allen Poe?

    "Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokopeli View Post
    "To be or not to be, that is the question"
    Umhum but the context of this phrase is a whole doctorate study in itself. It doesn't stand alone If taken as a question that Hamlet is asking himself i.e. questioning his existence, either the honesty, integrity of it or indeed the future of it or if he's trying to determine whether his life thus far has been a falsehood, it may suggest that he is questioning whether he is a lie and not whether he is a liar - different things. Hamlet is intensely honest and is surrounded by treachory, it is this virtue that drives him to virtual insanity (one school of thought) so the 'to be or not to be' question would have been one of self torture and consequently one that could have torn his mind apart in the fathoming and self-loathing it pre-empted.
    Which leads us back to what Lisa said in the first place about the question driving her crazy Which means you could be right Koko

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    Well excuse me just a vair vair moment.........

    My original question came from Classic Hits radio - you're the ones who subsequently brought up Shakespeare, Hamlet and Edgar Allen Poe

    Bit too deep for my liking, think I'll stick to Bunting in the morning

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