I think a lot of it depends on what is counted as a 'brawl'. Judging by your reports, it always seems that there are only one or two trouble makers and less than half a dozen actual crimes commited.

For instance, I was watching a documentary on Britain in the late 1950s/1960s the other day. It showed groups of youths, usually in their hundreds, fighting in seaside towns. To me it didn't look like serious crimes were commited, especially by modern British standards, but there were loads of assualts and minor injuries. My uncle was also almost beaten to death by a group of youths in the 1950s in the East End of London. :icon_frown: I think the point I'm trying to make is that a group of drunken youngsters in one country might be considered serious and consitute a criminal act, whilst in another people might not think anything of it.

I think the other point is that every country has crime. I don't believe that any country, past or present, has not suffered from the effects of it. In the past, Britain still had serial killers, rapists, thieves etc. There was still an average of 230 murders every year 50 years ago (compared to around 650 now - though population has increased by 15-20 million). Despite this, communities were still safer, people cared about one another more i.e. their neighbours, and it was, no doubt, a much more pleasant place to live.


Tottefan.